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	<description>Helping nonprofits use and leverage Salesforce.com</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Microsoft Dynamics CRM - A first look by Kevin Hughes</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/03/18/microsoft-dynamics-crm-a-first-look/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Just to comment that the Workgroup edition of Microsoft CRM supports up to 5 users and anymore will require a Professional Licence.</description>
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<p>Just to comment that the Workgroup edition of Microsoft CRM supports up to 5 users and anymore will require a Professional Licence.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When is a good time to start a CRM project? by Blogger Relations</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/05/20/when-to-start-crm-project/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger Relations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What Companies can Learn from Nonprofits: CRM...&lt;/strong&gt;

Companies often think nonprofit organizations are less professionally run than their for-profit counterparts, but really each sector has areas of advantage. Companies would be smart to learn from the advanced constituent (or customer or client) relatio...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What Companies can Learn from Nonprofits: CRM&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Companies often think nonprofit organizations are less professionally run than their for-profit counterparts, but really each sector has areas of advantage. Companies would be smart to learn from the advanced constituent (or customer or client) relatio&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing by Metrics by Bennet Simonton</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/08/10/managing-by-metrics/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bennet Simonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metrics do most people a disservice.  Actually, they are very disrespectful of employees, but then that is the nature of the top-down command and control approach to managing people so prevalent today. Let me explain.

Leadership applies to people and denotes the sending of value standard messages to people which most of them then follow/use. Thus we say that they have been "led" in the direction of those standards. Leadership is one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.

Leadership in the workplace consists of the value standards reflected in everything that an employee experiences because these standards are what employees follow by using them to perform their work. Most of what the employee experiences is the support or lack thereof provided by management - such as training, tools, parts, discipline, direction, material, procedures, rules, technical advice, documentation, information, planning, etc.

Leadership is not a process any manager can change.  It happens inexorably every minute of every day because of the way people are. The only choice available to a manager is the standard (good, bad, mediocre or in between) which he/she transmits to employees.

Because of these characteristics, "followership" turns out to be a major force in managing people.  Those managers who take advantage of it can become extremely effective at "managing their human capital.

For example, let's look at the top-down command and control technique that is the most widely used method to manage people. 

Top-down concentrates on producing goals, targets, visions, orders and other directives in order to control the workforce and thereby achieve organizational success. Concentrating on giving direction prevents these managers from doing much of anything else. Thus top-down treats employees like robots in the "shut up and listen, I know better than you" mode, and rarely if ever listens to them. By so doing this approach ignores every employee's basic need to be heard and to be respected. In addition, not listening to employees makes top management ignorant of what is really going on in the workplace thus making their directives misguided at best and irrelevant at worst.

In top-down, nobody listens to employee ideas, nobody values their opinions, and nobody gives them any recognition. The only way that the workforce can deal with managers who treat them in this way is to disengage and ignore their behavior. In the workplace this is seen as being sullen, uncommunicative, having a poor attitude, low morale and/or apathy. 

(During my first 12 years of managing people, I used top-down and was never aware of how bad my leadership was. It was not until I started really listening to employees that I began to understand.)

In this way and others, top-down demeans and disrespects employees sending them very negative value standard messages. The standards reflected in this treatment "lead" employees to treat their work, their customers, each other and their bosses with the same level of disrespect they received. No one can become committed to company goals while being treated so poorly.

This is the road to very poor corporate performance as compared to the results that would be achieved using a better approach.  Top-down managers are their own worst enemies because they “lead” employees to the very worst performance.  (In “The Human Side of Enterprise”, author Douglas McGregor named this “Theory X” and named the other extreme “Theory Y”, but he did not provide how to achieve it.)

If you want your employees to produce very high performance and eagerly embrace necessary changes, swing to the other end of the spectrum thus leading toward the highest possible performance.  To do this, first get rid of all traces of a top-down approach. Everyone wants to do a good job, but don't want to be ordered around like a robot. 

Next, start treating employees with great respect and not like robots by listening to whatever they want to say when they want to say it and responding in a very respectful manner. Responding respectfully means resolving their complaints and suggestions and answering their questions to their satisfaction as well as yours, but most importantly theirs. It also means providing them more than enough opportunity to voice their complaints, suggestions and questions. Spend your time making your support reflect the very highest standards of all values by resolving their complaints and suggestions thus "leading" them to use the very highest standards.

And realize that the highest quality and most respectful "direction" is the very least since no one likes to take orders or really needs them except in emergency situations.  Anyone routinely needing extensive orders should not be on your team.

This treatment leads employees to treat their work, their customers, each other and their bosses with great respect.  Listening and responding respectfully also inspires them to unleash their full potential of creativity, innovation and productivity on their work giving them great pride in it and causes them to love to come to work.

You will be stunned as I was by the huge amount of creativity, innovation and productivity you have unleashed to say nothing of the fact that everyone will be far more ethical in their conduct.

Best regards, Ben
Author "Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metrics do most people a disservice.  Actually, they are very disrespectful of employees, but then that is the nature of the top-down command and control approach to managing people so prevalent today. Let me explain.</p>
<p>Leadership applies to people and denotes the sending of value standard messages to people which most of them then follow/use. Thus we say that they have been &#8220;led&#8221; in the direction of those standards. Leadership is one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.</p>
<p>Leadership in the workplace consists of the value standards reflected in everything that an employee experiences because these standards are what employees follow by using them to perform their work. Most of what the employee experiences is the support or lack thereof provided by management - such as training, tools, parts, discipline, direction, material, procedures, rules, technical advice, documentation, information, planning, etc.</p>
<p>Leadership is not a process any manager can change.  It happens inexorably every minute of every day because of the way people are. The only choice available to a manager is the standard (good, bad, mediocre or in between) which he/she transmits to employees.</p>
<p>Because of these characteristics, &#8220;followership&#8221; turns out to be a major force in managing people.  Those managers who take advantage of it can become extremely effective at &#8220;managing their human capital.</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s look at the top-down command and control technique that is the most widely used method to manage people. </p>
<p>Top-down concentrates on producing goals, targets, visions, orders and other directives in order to control the workforce and thereby achieve organizational success. Concentrating on giving direction prevents these managers from doing much of anything else. Thus top-down treats employees like robots in the &#8220;shut up and listen, I know better than you&#8221; mode, and rarely if ever listens to them. By so doing this approach ignores every employee&#8217;s basic need to be heard and to be respected. In addition, not listening to employees makes top management ignorant of what is really going on in the workplace thus making their directives misguided at best and irrelevant at worst.</p>
<p>In top-down, nobody listens to employee ideas, nobody values their opinions, and nobody gives them any recognition. The only way that the workforce can deal with managers who treat them in this way is to disengage and ignore their behavior. In the workplace this is seen as being sullen, uncommunicative, having a poor attitude, low morale and/or apathy. </p>
<p>(During my first 12 years of managing people, I used top-down and was never aware of how bad my leadership was. It was not until I started really listening to employees that I began to understand.)</p>
<p>In this way and others, top-down demeans and disrespects employees sending them very negative value standard messages. The standards reflected in this treatment &#8220;lead&#8221; employees to treat their work, their customers, each other and their bosses with the same level of disrespect they received. No one can become committed to company goals while being treated so poorly.</p>
<p>This is the road to very poor corporate performance as compared to the results that would be achieved using a better approach.  Top-down managers are their own worst enemies because they “lead” employees to the very worst performance.  (In “The Human Side of Enterprise”, author Douglas McGregor named this “Theory X” and named the other extreme “Theory Y”, but he did not provide how to achieve it.)</p>
<p>If you want your employees to produce very high performance and eagerly embrace necessary changes, swing to the other end of the spectrum thus leading toward the highest possible performance.  To do this, first get rid of all traces of a top-down approach. Everyone wants to do a good job, but don&#8217;t want to be ordered around like a robot. </p>
<p>Next, start treating employees with great respect and not like robots by listening to whatever they want to say when they want to say it and responding in a very respectful manner. Responding respectfully means resolving their complaints and suggestions and answering their questions to their satisfaction as well as yours, but most importantly theirs. It also means providing them more than enough opportunity to voice their complaints, suggestions and questions. Spend your time making your support reflect the very highest standards of all values by resolving their complaints and suggestions thus &#8220;leading&#8221; them to use the very highest standards.</p>
<p>And realize that the highest quality and most respectful &#8220;direction&#8221; is the very least since no one likes to take orders or really needs them except in emergency situations.  Anyone routinely needing extensive orders should not be on your team.</p>
<p>This treatment leads employees to treat their work, their customers, each other and their bosses with great respect.  Listening and responding respectfully also inspires them to unleash their full potential of creativity, innovation and productivity on their work giving them great pride in it and causes them to love to come to work.</p>
<p>You will be stunned as I was by the huge amount of creativity, innovation and productivity you have unleashed to say nothing of the fact that everyone will be far more ethical in their conduct.</p>
<p>Best regards, Ben<br />
Author &#8220;Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing by Metrics by Anand</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/08/10/managing-by-metrics/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I think that is totally fair. I often wonder about the increased pressure we see across all organization on metrics. I don't necessarily think this is purely the fault of upper level management. They are likely facing intense metrics pressure from their own Boards and Funders. I do, however, believe the art of effective metrics management is to look beyond the numbers to see the full story of what is actually unfolding at the ground level as well as at a high level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I think that is totally fair. I often wonder about the increased pressure we see across all organization on metrics. I don&#8217;t necessarily think this is purely the fault of upper level management. They are likely facing intense metrics pressure from their own Boards and Funders. I do, however, believe the art of effective metrics management is to look beyond the numbers to see the full story of what is actually unfolding at the ground level as well as at a high level.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does a CRM Implementation cost? by NeedHelpFindHelp.org</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/04/26/what-does-a-crm-implementation-cost/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>NeedHelpFindHelp.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NeedHelpFindHelp.org has implemented civicrm.org it does everything we need plus much more. The best thing about it is that its open source software, so that means its free, it has a large non-profit community that supports the software and upgrades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeedHelpFindHelp.org has implemented civicrm.org it does everything we need plus much more. The best thing about it is that its open source software, so that means its free, it has a large non-profit community that supports the software and upgrades.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing by Metrics by John</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/08/10/managing-by-metrics/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a gripe I have presented many times especially with upper level management that doesn't care much about anything except metrics.  Metrics, surveys, and other forms of data collection should be used as an additional set of information not as fact.

Let me pose this question:  How do you explain this concept to management that is set on using only metrics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a gripe I have presented many times especially with upper level management that doesn&#8217;t care much about anything except metrics.  Metrics, surveys, and other forms of data collection should be used as an additional set of information not as fact.</p>
<p>Let me pose this question:  How do you explain this concept to management that is set on using only metrics?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cross Object Formulas Have Changed the Game by Steve Andersen</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/08/03/cross-object-formulas/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cross object formulas can enhance the value of List Views. Lists are great because you can have list buttons that do great things with the data, they show up in the console, and you can use them in the mass email wizard. The main limitation of List Views is that you can only look at one object at a time. Cross object formulas allow you to look at more than one object, giving you some query flexibility in List Views. They aren't as flexible as Reports, but cross-object formulas have made them much more powerful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cross object formulas can enhance the value of List Views. Lists are great because you can have list buttons that do great things with the data, they show up in the console, and you can use them in the mass email wizard. The main limitation of List Views is that you can only look at one object at a time. Cross object formulas allow you to look at more than one object, giving you some query flexibility in List Views. They aren&#8217;t as flexible as Reports, but cross-object formulas have made them much more powerful!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How Much Bandwidth Does Salesforce Use? by Ian Gilyeat</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/07/22/how-much-bandwidth-does-salesforce-use/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Gilyeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the technical analysis above is useful, I think it more pragmatic to sign-up for a free 30 day trial, import data or create fabricated data and use the product to see how it performs in your enviornment, at your location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the technical analysis above is useful, I think it more pragmatic to sign-up for a free 30 day trial, import data or create fabricated data and use the product to see how it performs in your enviornment, at your location.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CRM Sustainability by Anand Sethupathy</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/07/05/crm-sustainability/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>Anand Sethupathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great tool is Jing www.jingproject.com. It works on both Windows and Mac OS platforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great tool is Jing <a href="http://www.jingproject.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.jingproject.com');">http://www.jingproject.com</a>. It works on both Windows and Mac OS platforms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CRM Sustainability by Josh</title>
		<link>http://nonprofitcrm.org/2008/07/05/crm-sustainability/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use SnapzProx by Ambrosia Software http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ this is a Macintosh only application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use SnapzProx by Ambrosia Software <a href="http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.ambrosiasw.com');">http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/</a> this is a Macintosh only application.</p>
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